I have had an excellent conversation with Randy Maugans and James Bartley on Off Planet Radio, both renegades whose work I respect and have learned from a lot over the years. We talk UFOs and the control narratives emanating from military-intelligence operatives, how the UFO scene has gone off the rails – the New Age UFO movement and “cosmic disclosure” deception. We also go deeper into spirituality, metaphysics, and healing during this time of transition. This is the first hour of a two-hour presentation. For the second hour go to: https://patreon.com/offplanetmedia